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| | I have noticed a number of the fieldID's do not display correctly either when selecting the Utilities: Display Field ID or Utilities | Load Field ID. A couple cases I've found so far: The borrower and coborrower first name fields on the Borrower Information and 1003 P1 screens indicate fields 100 and 150 respectively. However, 100 is actually a concatenation of 115 and 117 (150=165+167). The borrower first name field should actually display 115. Another case is the Up-front MIP/Funding fee Financed which the MIP screen displays as 845. FieldID.Xls indicates that it is actually stored in 818. An examination of the .BRW file confirms that it is stored as 818. How many other instances of mis-mapped fields are out there and what would it take to get these corrected?
Jim Wooley
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| | I just ran a report on both field ID 100 and 150. It pulled the first name from all of my files. |
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| | You might be using Display Field id. Be sure to click Load Field id where the id is displayed inside of the field of a Point file. Are you saying when you pull a report and use field id 100 and 150 that you get the property address fields?
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| | Field ID 818 is actually the MIP/FF Financed. Field ID 845 is actually the MIP/FF Financed BEFORE subtracting any MIP/FF paid in cash. As an experiment, you can try this: 1. Create a new file
2. On the borrower information screen, enter a loan amount, let's say $250,000
3. Click Forms > Loan Application Page 3
4. Press the MIP/FF button. Enter 1.5% in the "MIP, FF" dropdown. You'll see $3750.00 in the field to the right of the "MIP, FF" dropdown (field ID 845)
5. Click the "Lock" box next to Amount Paid in Cash, enter $10.00. Click OK
6. Now you'll see the MIP, FF Financed is $3740.00 This is an oversimplified example. Typically on FHA loans, people are dealing with odd loan amounts with cents. They often use the lock box to subtract the cents. You should use 818 for your MIP, FF if you are running reports or importing. Don't worry about 115, 117, 165, 167. These are old fields that were used for special concatenating in version 4.3 and earlier. New files created in version 4.4 and later will not write borrower/co-borrower names to 115, 117, 165, 167. (in fact in version 5.1 115 is borrower mailing address country, 165 is co-borrower mailing address country). Please use 100, 101, 150, 151. These are the true fields for borrower first/last name. Are you saying 100 and 150 don't display correctly when you run reports?
Bryan
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| | It might be a version issue. I am using 4.x in our development environment with 5.1 in production. The borrower's first name is still appearing under 115. 100 is correct now. I do not see the mailing country under the 1003 page 1. Should it appear there under 5.1? In 5.1, when using Tools and loading the Borrower Field ID's, the UI for the mtg insurance calculator screen still shows 845 where 818 is actually displaying. If I click the lock box, it stays 845. Clicking it again changes it to 846. Jim
Jim Wooley
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| | Jim, thanks. You found a bug with the display values on load field ID. 845 is not the ID! The MIP/FF dialog seems to be "calculating" some display values, instead of displaying the actual ID's (this is a display issue only, Point is not using 7687.000, 845.57, 0.57, 845.00 nor 856.00 to store fields). I have posted a correct representation of the field ID's below. Country is on Freddie Mac > Loan App Page 1, and it's present address country, not mailing address country. Thanks for your feedback. 
Bryan
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| | When determining which field to use and how to use it, I have found it is helpful to double check the field ID's. I create a Point file with the data set up the way I want, then save it. I then make one change (the change I want to examine) and save it to a different file. Once this is done, I can use a utility to compare the two files and find the differences. This has highlighted several unexpected changes for me and has given some insight into how other fields may be affected. It also helps me target fields that aren't well-documented. If you want, I can send you a utility that will help you compare or you can use the one included with Point (datacompare.exe). Mine is a little easier to use.
- Mike
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