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Posted 9/28/2006 3:11:36 PM
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I have read the different views on what set-ups actually work on a TS and I know that there is more than one way get a result that "works". I am most interested in the set-up that I read about in a topic posted by iSupport were he shared the way he has setup point, however, I didn't see anything that would actually bring me up to the point that he was at when he started the topic about re-writing script. Does anyone (who actually knows what their talking about) be able to walk me through from the beginning on the proper way to initially install Point in a the TS environment that iSupport was explaining. Also, is it really necesarry to switch to PDS? I know so respected members have but I still can't justify the real advantage if the TS set up is effective. Is it easier to deal with in a PDS setting?
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Posted 9/28/2006 4:12:48 PM


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It depends on what business problems you are solving with ts.  At least with PDS you are running in a supported environment were tech support will try and help you.

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Posted 9/28/2006 10:29:03 PM
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Sir, I can respect a man for drawing a line in the sand and staying to one side of it. Even if he's on an Indonesian beach watching the tide act funny...

I have Point Installed on the C: drive and copied it to each user's docs & sets folder and I copied the winpoint.ini to their corresponding Windows location, however, in post#3735 iSupport stated that Point always needs the original installation of Point on the C drive; why? PPhilips made a very good point. What does Point still need from the C:\Winpoint folder that would make it look there even if the Winpoint folder has been copied to the user's folder in the d&s folder and the winpoint.ini file (in that user's windows folder) has been redirected to it. 

Why wouldn't it run independently? Am I making myself understandable; I can be more detailed if needed. I just assumed your following me on this because it isn't a new topic of discussion and I know some folks may be bored with it already but; please??

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Posted 9/29/2006 6:40:29 AM
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I beleive the reason that in my setup I still need the c:\Winpoint is my installation process.

When I initially install Point, I use c:\winpoint as my target. I'm guessing that there are many pointers setup in the registry which still point to the folder. The main reason I give each user a copy of the Point is to avoid any possibility of information/config conflicts between users. It's not a perfect setup, but until Point learns to play nice with TS, it's the only way that I have been able to get Point running consistently.

I suppose you could search through the registry for the pointers, but why bother? c:\winpoint takes up very little space. I guess if you were trying to harden your environment then you might, but then again, you'd have to find a more secure product than Point.

Anyway, just my .02
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Posted 9/29/2006 10:05:28 PM
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You make a good point. Well, we have a pretty unique set up here and I may be overcomplicating the procedure needed to accomplish my goal. I really liked the set-up that you had recommended using vb script, but, I am not literate on re-writing script (yet) and I can't afford to screw things up while trying to not screw things up. Our users have to log on to a VPN in order to then log on to the Domain Server through the TS (yes, I use a seperate server as a DC). I want to install POINT on the TS (not the DC) and I want to install it on the D:\ of the TS not the C:\ (I too hide the C:\). On the TS D:\ I have the TS Homes and the TS Profiles, on the TS C:\ are the D&S folders. Now, you will find a WINDOWS folder in the TS Home folders, TS profile folder, and the D&S folder (I didn't originally set it up this way so if it sounds odd, say so, maybe I'll feel a little better). This is my set up; what I did was I installed the WINPOINT folder onto the C:\ and I created a data folder for each user in a seperate folder on the D:\ . The winpoint.ini file is in the WINNT folder (did I remember that right?) and I copied it (not moved it) into all of the C:\D&S\user\windows folders. I also copied it into the TS Home\users\windows folders and then I copied the Winpoint folder from the C:\ to the D:\TS profile\user folders. You following me? Now; I am logged on with an Admin account (not using a terminal session, I am working locally on the domain for this) and the account I am using does not have a TS profile or TS home on D:\ (don't know if it matters or not) but it does have a D&S folder on C:\. The Admin account I am using is the only account we use to administer the network and I would like for it to be the only account that uses Point Administrator to set up all the loan officers (do you see how this in itself raises a few issues? Winpoint is on the C:\ and I am an admin user but I am not the default user on the C:\). My goal was/is to have each loan officer run their own Winpoint application because it seems to be most intelligent way for a large outfit (we have about 40 users and rising). I redirected all of the $:\windows\winpoint.ini files (incuding the ones on the C:\ to the corresponding D:\TS Home\user\Winpoint folders and I only only listed their own data folder directory inside of the D:\TS Home\Winpoint\user\userprofile.ini (had to do this maually without using Point Admin). It works, but, you ever get that "there's gotta be another way" feeling?? This took me a very long time to figure out and I am still worried because even though I got it working, I now have to figure out how I am going to lock things down and keep users from navigating though the directories into other "stuff". If you are still with me here, it is very likely you may have a VM or two by now you may need to listen to, go ahead; I need you to read this again and offer as many suggestions as you feel you might have to offer on what I've done. Also; I am open-minded towards setting up differently. The goal is simple; I just want to run Point on a TS and keep all the data in a centralized location.
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